Hi folks,
Just thought I'd throw out a question for some help. Currently, Im 3/8 Heroic raiding on my DK and Ive noticed my damage stagnating at a place Im not happy with. I've done plenty of pouring over my own parses and those of the bottom-end rankers in this class. I guess what it boils down to is this.
Yes, EJ gives stat priority of Haste>Mastery with Gurth for us. But to what degree am I losing damage by not giving Mastery its own priority?
Currently Im at 2619 (20.45%) Haste but only 1108 (14.18) Mastery.
Any help would be much appreciated.
My understanding is mastery has it's own priority...It's just low.
TMK the stat weights of an Unholy DK don't have any synergy like that of an elemental shaman (The more haste we have the more chances our mastery can proc, the more mastery we have the stronger having haste becomes). Therefore it's going to boil down to a lot of straightforward math. Which stat gives the best DPS? Stat X? Ok, stack it. What gives the least amount of DPS? Stat Y? Ok, avoid it like the plague then. If you sacrifice stat X for stat Y you have less of X which gives more dps than Y.
The only time I could imagine sacrificing haste for mastery is if you wanted to stay at a haste breakpoint, and even then I'd imagine having faster rune regeneration to outweigh that, although I could be wrong about that. In my light reading of Unholy it sounds like there are 2 breakpoints that exist with UF and your ghoul/Gargoyle.
I could be wrong since I'm just dipping my toes into Unholy now (Was frost until I got gurth), and I don't play this DK much.
Make sure to empty all your RP and pop AMS during magic heavy sections. this will allow you to spam DC for a short amount of time. Best of all the runic corruption's buff time stacks.
Saturday, April 21, 2012
should i stack stam
ok so i have a 394 il 195 hp unbuffed my shields are at 200% 300 when my trinket proc should i now or at any point start going for stam gems rather than mastery gems
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/azgalor/Lanexx/simple
Only reason I've found a good use for more stam other than whats on gear is H Yor, but that's just switching to 2 stam trinkets instead of 1 stam, 1 mastery.
reg mode ds is a joke to tank but i noticed the times i was hit on heroic morchok had a few oh !@#$ moments is why i was asking
If you have no problems living until your next DS, you don't need more stamina. If you do, then you need more stamina.
The amount of stamina required varies severely from player-to-player.
oh ok well i have alot of oh !@#$ moments so i might just do that
Might want to have a look at your rotation and priority then if you have a lot of those.
Does your guild log your raids?
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/azgalor/Lanexx/simple
Only reason I've found a good use for more stam other than whats on gear is H Yor, but that's just switching to 2 stam trinkets instead of 1 stam, 1 mastery.
reg mode ds is a joke to tank but i noticed the times i was hit on heroic morchok had a few oh !@#$ moments is why i was asking
If you have no problems living until your next DS, you don't need more stamina. If you do, then you need more stamina.
The amount of stamina required varies severely from player-to-player.
oh ok well i have alot of oh !@#$ moments so i might just do that
Might want to have a look at your rotation and priority then if you have a lot of those.
Does your guild log your raids?
Frost VP choices...
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Awesome. My ret pally loves it, and my DK wants to shoot myself. Not to mention all the new dungeon loot seems to be riddled with crit too. I CAN'T MAKE IT GO AWAY
/sigh
Could you be anymore annoying?
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Awesome. My ret pally loves it, and my DK wants to shoot myself. Not to mention all the new dungeon loot seems to be riddled with crit too. I CAN'T MAKE IT GO AWAY
/sigh
Could you be anymore annoying?
WALL OF CRIT TEXT CRITS MORE THAN REGULAR WALL OF TEXT!
wtf...wheres my faceroll button?
Sup. I mainly pve'd on this toon when cata launched as blood, then tried a little pvp as frost before shelving him for my priest/rogue/warrior a few months back.
i lvld to 85 blood and never even had an UH spec till today. Im likeing the control of uh with focus silence/pet stun and want to pickup this character again, but im kind of lost on the ramp up to dark transform/erw burst.
im specd into RoR cuz i remember seeing something from Reinhart awhile ago saying this was the best dps choice for pvp. so im building rp with plauge/IT/dnd, etc but it seems like it takes entirely too long to setup a kill.
im figuring wait for transform @ full rp with runes up, DT, necro x2, gargoyle, erw, necro x2, dc to dump rp
idk...i feel like im doing it terribly wrong.
renamed cuz no replys.
Negative, mi amigo. You don't want to build RP with Plague Strike or Icy Touch, in fact you shouldn't really bother to use Icy Touch in PvP at all, since Chains of Ice applies Frost Fever. Use CoI and Plague Strike to apply diseases, that's it. Use Death Coil as soon as you have the RP in order to proc Runic Corruption -> get runes faster = get RP faster. If diseases are already up, try to use your Blood & Frost runes on Festering Strike to proc Reaping. Once you've lined up some Death runes and your two UH runes, you can stack Necrotic Strike. Once you've used 5 DCs, Dark Transformation will pop. Continue stacking Necrotics, pop your Gargoyle, Mind Freeze a heal, Strangulate your target, use your ghoul-stun on them, stack some more Necrotics, wave goodbye.
The RoR build works just fine, all it means is you will use Scourge Strike more often for the up-front damage when a) the enemy healer is incapacitated or b) there is no healer.
Unholy's damage has a big ramp-up time, you don't burst the way Frost does. You do, however, have the ability to put out sustained, consistent damage/pressure that builds over time, and you "burst" when you pop DT and your Gargoyle.
Gotcha...it was kind of an awakening coming off frosts faceroll rotation and the on-demand type of burst im used to with rogue/priest/warrior.
do i glyph ss? How is my uh spec/glyph setup?
It was an awakening.. O:? Lol.
I played as Unholy for months before switching back to Frost. You may feel pretty
cool for having a slightly harder "rotation" and doing the same dps, I guess
that's up to you.
i lvld to 85 blood and never even had an UH spec till today. Im likeing the control of uh with focus silence/pet stun and want to pickup this character again, but im kind of lost on the ramp up to dark transform/erw burst.
im specd into RoR cuz i remember seeing something from Reinhart awhile ago saying this was the best dps choice for pvp. so im building rp with plauge/IT/dnd, etc but it seems like it takes entirely too long to setup a kill.
im figuring wait for transform @ full rp with runes up, DT, necro x2, gargoyle, erw, necro x2, dc to dump rp
idk...i feel like im doing it terribly wrong.
renamed cuz no replys.
Negative, mi amigo. You don't want to build RP with Plague Strike or Icy Touch, in fact you shouldn't really bother to use Icy Touch in PvP at all, since Chains of Ice applies Frost Fever. Use CoI and Plague Strike to apply diseases, that's it. Use Death Coil as soon as you have the RP in order to proc Runic Corruption -> get runes faster = get RP faster. If diseases are already up, try to use your Blood & Frost runes on Festering Strike to proc Reaping. Once you've lined up some Death runes and your two UH runes, you can stack Necrotic Strike. Once you've used 5 DCs, Dark Transformation will pop. Continue stacking Necrotics, pop your Gargoyle, Mind Freeze a heal, Strangulate your target, use your ghoul-stun on them, stack some more Necrotics, wave goodbye.
The RoR build works just fine, all it means is you will use Scourge Strike more often for the up-front damage when a) the enemy healer is incapacitated or b) there is no healer.
Unholy's damage has a big ramp-up time, you don't burst the way Frost does. You do, however, have the ability to put out sustained, consistent damage/pressure that builds over time, and you "burst" when you pop DT and your Gargoyle.
Gotcha...it was kind of an awakening coming off frosts faceroll rotation and the on-demand type of burst im used to with rogue/priest/warrior.
do i glyph ss? How is my uh spec/glyph setup?
It was an awakening.. O:? Lol.
I played as Unholy for months before switching back to Frost. You may feel pretty
cool for having a slightly harder "rotation" and doing the same dps, I guess
that's up to you.
I love Death Knights.
They're really good at this game.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Vynlorastus/simple
Let's make a thread about one bad Death Knight and make it seem like all Death Knights are like him.
0/10
Rather defensive there buddy.
I love hunters.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/uldaman/Purplelady/simple
Man, that gear is AMAZING
xD
Wish I still had a Carrot on a Stick. Man, I'm jealous.
This thread is now about the math behind π.
(π > cake) = (cake < π)
cheesecake ≈ π
cake =/= cheesecake
Therefore,
cheesecake > cake
Any questions?
PS: Yes, I am hungry.
A decent DK is a diamond in the ruff..
A great DK is the needle in the Hay.Everyone has a Dk..
Diamond in the ruff? o_o
He means canine.
RUFF RYDERZ! WHERE MAH DAWGZ AT?!
I thought the forum community collectively stopped linking other people's characters before Wrath launched.
This is like a trip through a time capsule.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/burning-blade/Vynlorastus/simple
Let's make a thread about one bad Death Knight and make it seem like all Death Knights are like him.
0/10
Rather defensive there buddy.
I love hunters.
http://us.battle.net/wow/en/character/uldaman/Purplelady/simple
Man, that gear is AMAZING
xD
Wish I still had a Carrot on a Stick. Man, I'm jealous.
This thread is now about the math behind π.
(π > cake) = (cake < π)
cheesecake ≈ π
cake =/= cheesecake
Therefore,
cheesecake > cake
Any questions?
PS: Yes, I am hungry.
A decent DK is a diamond in the ruff..
A great DK is the needle in the Hay.Everyone has a Dk..
Diamond in the ruff? o_o
He means canine.
RUFF RYDERZ! WHERE MAH DAWGZ AT?!
I thought the forum community collectively stopped linking other people's characters before Wrath launched.
This is like a trip through a time capsule.
Need Heroic Blackhorn (Specific Advice)
I switch back to frost for heroic blackhorn 25. This is the only fight that I am dpsing so i want specific advice on what i can do to improve my burst on twilight drakes, while still cleaving slayer/dreadblade if possible. Would it be more beneficial to have a bit more mastery like I do now, get even more mastery, or reforge into haste? Again, this is the only fight that I'm dpsing, so if it would benefit me to change my spec/reforges around, I'm okay with it. Thanks!
More mastery is just going to help with your cleaves really. Getting more mastery and less haste probably wont help burst on the drakes. Unless your masterfrost, in which case more mastery is always better and will raise your singe target dps on the drakes. I like around 2k-2100 haste and the rest into mastery for that fight following the standard haste frost rotation.
More mastery is just going to help with your cleaves really. Getting more mastery and less haste probably wont help burst on the drakes. Unless your masterfrost, in which case more mastery is always better and will raise your singe target dps on the drakes. I like around 2k-2100 haste and the rest into mastery for that fight following the standard haste frost rotation.
What was your dk in life?
being a writer of science fiction and the like it is only natural for me to supercede the parameters of the game and wonder what my toon might have been before becoming a dk. of course, unholy would be either a warlock or hunter, but in this case i'm a 2h frost so i think of my guy as actually a ret pally underneath, and he had another name, like lionheart or braveheart, or something less corny, thast died with him when he died and was changed into a dk. i suppose generically they were probably all warriors of one spec or another. i figure dw would obviously be fury warrior, or a rogue type.
For the brief amount of time I flirted with RP, my DK had been a Sunwalker/Paladin in his previous life (I changed his race to Orc when I quit RP for the significantly better racial benefits, he was originally a Tauren). I felt that the Lich King would have enjoyed the cruel twist of irony by turning him into his polar opposite - from a Sunwalker into an Unholy Death Knight - thereby converting his prowess in powers of Holiness and the Light into prowess in powers of Unholiness and Shadow. Despite the official lore behind Death Knights, I felt that Warlocks were simply too close to the darkness in the first place, and that turning them into DKs wouldn't be a huge difference for them, relatively speaking. On the other hand, turning a Paladin into a Death Knight would be the ultimate irony and the ultimate display of the Lich King's power, as it would show just how deeply the Lich King could mutilate and mold one's spirit, thereby causing the formerly-Holy being the most spiritual and psychological suffering and torment. Just my two cents.
I was never born, I was never reborn... I just was.
The guy behind a New York newspaper stand. How i ended up in Azeroth is mind boggling even to me.
A tax accountant
i come up with the back story with my friends dwarf paladin. we were brothers of the alliance (both paladins) fighting to help in each great war but during the attack of the scourge (pre lk) my dwarf was killed and brought back by arthas. now from death regaining my last shred of humanity i regain control and once again fight by the side of my brother.
I was a Warrior, and a Knight in the Stormwind Army. I saw battles from the Siege of Blackrock to the Opening of the Dark Portal and the retaking of the Sunwell. I led counter-offensive against the Undead during the Scourge Invasion, and fell to a legion of abominations and carrion champions. Then, reborn, I wrought the will of the Lich King, and led his machinations in Undeath.
being the half brother to Legendwolf and Viciouswolf I was always the outcast, shunned by my family. after the Battle of Gilneas where I watched not in horror as Legendwolf did as his parents were murdered I was the one who killed them. if not for Viciouswolf I would have also killed Legendwolf. in life as in death I was and still am cold and heartless filled with rage for my half brothers.
I was that level 1 warrior who danced on the mailbox until a For the Horde raid swept through town.
:(
rofl wow
Leuts here was one of those hunters up int the Grizzly Hills prior to her death.
War mage.
I maintained a notice board filled with pictures of cats with silly bits of dialogue written on them.
In life Haavik was a brutal mercenary who slaughtered anything and everything for a price. He didnt really care about the money however, the act of severing limbs and claiming the sternums of his still screaming foes was reward enough. Wherever he went, life ended, farms were burned and the land salted, children were force fed to livestock, men were beaten to death with the corpses of thier own wives and the valleys became seas of blood with roads acting as river channels for the sanguine remnants of the innocent. Agent of the Scourge was simply another job with irreversable fringe benefits and The Lich King was just another client whos debt came due. Now released from the Lich King's control, Haavik is free once again to pick up where his life left off; arm deep in the viscera of anyone he can get his claws on.
"The living exist to die and I am here to ensure they do just that. What on earth would the denizens of Azeroth do in my absence? Laugh? Sing? Grow old? NOT ON MY WATCH!"
"I'm a Doctor, Jim...not a miracle worker!!!"
The name Soferius is just a cover to keep the Alliance leadership off my back in Life I was Lord Aiden Perenolde of Alterac, it was I who betrayed the Alliance to the Horde back in the second war, my body was preserved by my children until it was found by the Scourge when they came to Alterac to kidnap Anveena Teague, it was not long after that my body was brought to Acherus and Revived as one of the Lich King's Death Knight's since then I have gone by the name of Soferius Iceveins Avatar of Frost.
Life Knight.
Duh.
She was a cheap !@#$ that spread diseases all over the place.
Not much has changed.......
lololol this wins
For the brief amount of time I flirted with RP, my DK had been a Sunwalker/Paladin in his previous life (I changed his race to Orc when I quit RP for the significantly better racial benefits, he was originally a Tauren). I felt that the Lich King would have enjoyed the cruel twist of irony by turning him into his polar opposite - from a Sunwalker into an Unholy Death Knight - thereby converting his prowess in powers of Holiness and the Light into prowess in powers of Unholiness and Shadow. Despite the official lore behind Death Knights, I felt that Warlocks were simply too close to the darkness in the first place, and that turning them into DKs wouldn't be a huge difference for them, relatively speaking. On the other hand, turning a Paladin into a Death Knight would be the ultimate irony and the ultimate display of the Lich King's power, as it would show just how deeply the Lich King could mutilate and mold one's spirit, thereby causing the formerly-Holy being the most spiritual and psychological suffering and torment. Just my two cents.
I was never born, I was never reborn... I just was.
The guy behind a New York newspaper stand. How i ended up in Azeroth is mind boggling even to me.
A tax accountant
i come up with the back story with my friends dwarf paladin. we were brothers of the alliance (both paladins) fighting to help in each great war but during the attack of the scourge (pre lk) my dwarf was killed and brought back by arthas. now from death regaining my last shred of humanity i regain control and once again fight by the side of my brother.
I was a Warrior, and a Knight in the Stormwind Army. I saw battles from the Siege of Blackrock to the Opening of the Dark Portal and the retaking of the Sunwell. I led counter-offensive against the Undead during the Scourge Invasion, and fell to a legion of abominations and carrion champions. Then, reborn, I wrought the will of the Lich King, and led his machinations in Undeath.
being the half brother to Legendwolf and Viciouswolf I was always the outcast, shunned by my family. after the Battle of Gilneas where I watched not in horror as Legendwolf did as his parents were murdered I was the one who killed them. if not for Viciouswolf I would have also killed Legendwolf. in life as in death I was and still am cold and heartless filled with rage for my half brothers.
I was that level 1 warrior who danced on the mailbox until a For the Horde raid swept through town.
:(
rofl wow
Leuts here was one of those hunters up int the Grizzly Hills prior to her death.
War mage.
I maintained a notice board filled with pictures of cats with silly bits of dialogue written on them.
In life Haavik was a brutal mercenary who slaughtered anything and everything for a price. He didnt really care about the money however, the act of severing limbs and claiming the sternums of his still screaming foes was reward enough. Wherever he went, life ended, farms were burned and the land salted, children were force fed to livestock, men were beaten to death with the corpses of thier own wives and the valleys became seas of blood with roads acting as river channels for the sanguine remnants of the innocent. Agent of the Scourge was simply another job with irreversable fringe benefits and The Lich King was just another client whos debt came due. Now released from the Lich King's control, Haavik is free once again to pick up where his life left off; arm deep in the viscera of anyone he can get his claws on.
"The living exist to die and I am here to ensure they do just that. What on earth would the denizens of Azeroth do in my absence? Laugh? Sing? Grow old? NOT ON MY WATCH!"
"I'm a Doctor, Jim...not a miracle worker!!!"
The name Soferius is just a cover to keep the Alliance leadership off my back in Life I was Lord Aiden Perenolde of Alterac, it was I who betrayed the Alliance to the Horde back in the second war, my body was preserved by my children until it was found by the Scourge when they came to Alterac to kidnap Anveena Teague, it was not long after that my body was brought to Acherus and Revived as one of the Lich King's Death Knight's since then I have gone by the name of Soferius Iceveins Avatar of Frost.
Life Knight.
Duh.
She was a cheap !@#$ that spread diseases all over the place.
Not much has changed.......
I was that level 1 warrior who danced on the mailbox until a For the Horde raid swept through town.
:(
lololol this wins
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